26 Apr 17, 12:41 PMRetrogradeRun: a lot of people die to the circle after the second wave as well
26 Apr 17, 12:39 PMRetrogradeRun: I got kind of hosed in a game yesterday because the game didn't load until the plane was just about to clear the coast and head off the map
26 Apr 17, 12:37 PMwork357: unless its in the middle of an open field, then its not that interesting i guess
26 Apr 17, 12:36 PMwork357: i will say the way the map forces you all together with the gas and stuff and its not always the same place is cool
26 Apr 17, 12:36 PMwork357: yeah its silly
26 Apr 17, 12:35 PMRetrogradeRun: so I had more than a full second to react before they could
26 Apr 17, 12:35 PMRetrogradeRun: the only reason I won that one round is because the last two guys couldn't see me over the crest of a hill
26 Apr 17, 12:35 PMwork357: which just leads to people dying to shit they couldnt have possibly known about from a billion miles away
26 Apr 17, 12:34 PMwork357: people just use third person to exploit the fact the camera isnt tied to the player model, so you can see over walls you're hiding behind and shit
26 Apr 17, 12:33 PMRetrogradeRun: third person meant I had a firefight where my and the other guy just stared at each other hiding behind our respective trees
26 Apr 17, 12:33 PMwork357: yeah thats the main reason i wouldnt pick it up even if it was finished
26 Apr 17, 12:33 PMRetrogradeRun: I wish it was first person only
26 Apr 17, 12:32 PMwork357: i just think they should do one in first person with some standard FPS controls and stop trying to go full arma with it all the time just cause dayZ did
26 Apr 17, 12:31 PMwork357: it's a terrible game with a good concept i think, like all those open world shooty multiplayer things
26 Apr 17, 12:31 PMwork357: i've watched a tonne of pubg
26 Apr 17, 12:29 PMRetrograderun: The shooting is weird because animations are movement based so there's a delay waiting for the character model
26 Apr 17, 12:27 PMRetrograderun: But that was 2 minutes of scrambling for items and 18 minutes of laying down on the ground in the shadows
26 Apr 17, 12:26 PMRetrograderun: I chased after him and stole it back but then it shot straight up in the air and I died when it landed upside down
26 Apr 17, 12:26 PMRetrograderun: I did have a funny death yesterday where a guy stole a bike I was paying down next to on the other side of a wall
26 Apr 17, 12:24 PMRetrograderun: The most effective way to play is run at the sight of someone and hide unless you're forced to do otherwise
26 Apr 17, 12:23 PMleslaron: Looks like it could be fun but...eh
26 Apr 17, 12:22 PMRetrogradeRun: I should've returned it but then I had a play session with my co-worker and played for 2.1 hours
26 Apr 17, 12:21 PMRetrogradeRun: I'm gonna get burned on this Playersunknown Battlegrounds thing
26 Apr 17, 12:10 PMRetrogradeRun: yeah, I lost interest as soon as I had visited 90% of the map
26 Apr 17, 12:09 PMleslaron: Not a fan of the building stuff, that's all I know. Get your own water, food, and electricity. I have things to kill!
26 Apr 17, 12:09 PMRetrogradeRun: they should just normalize the damage values and stop pretending it's an RPG
26 Apr 17, 12:08 PMRetrogradeRun: *curve
26 Apr 17, 12:08 PMRetrogradeRun: it has that bethesda, wonk, difficulty cruve
26 Apr 17, 12:07 PMleslaron: I've cleared a few settlements, JUST got to diamond city
26 Apr 17, 12:07 PMleslaron: That's...pretty much where I am
26 Apr 17, 12:07 PMRetrogradeRun: I never used the power armor except at the very beginning
26 Apr 17, 12:06 PMleslaron: I spent several hours chain-dying to super mutants and legendary mutants before i realised there's probably a reason the game gave me power armor and I should probably be using it
26 Apr 17, 12:03 PMzingmars: With a few lighting mods far harbor was atmospheric as fuck
26 Apr 17, 12:02 PMzingmars: I wish they had done more content dlc and less workshop stuff.
26 Apr 17, 12:01 PMzingmars: Yeah, radiant quests in fo4 are annoying. I ended up installing a mod that stopped them from occurring so often.
26 Apr 17, 11:48 AMRetrogradeRun: the combat was not fun for those two hours because I didn't pick melee as my combat focus
26 Apr 17, 11:47 AMRetrogradeRun: I played a little Fallout 2 the other day
26 Apr 17, 11:46 AMRetrogradeRun: when Preston started giving me radiant quests instead of being the faction I picked to build me a teleporter I deleted it again
26 Apr 17, 11:45 AMRetrogradeRun: I still never finished Fallout 4 even though I put about 40 hours into it
26 Apr 17, 10:53 AMSlightlyJames: v
26 Apr 17, 10:52 AMVicomte+: Autism.
26 Apr 17, 10:52 AMwork357: Kirsten likes him and i have no idea why
26 Apr 17, 10:52 AMwork357: ugh, presto gravy was a dick
26 Apr 17, 10:51 AMSlightlyJames: FO4 was especially bad for that because they added that boring ass fuckboi who actively tried to push the shitty radiant quests on you forever
26 Apr 17, 10:49 AMwork357: that goes for skyrim too
26 Apr 17, 10:49 AMwork357: like ah yes, i wish to kill endless bandits who have taken over a shithole somewhere forever
26 Apr 17, 10:49 AMwork357: i really hate the endless quests too, people who think those are good are the worst human beings
26 Apr 17, 10:48 AMVicomte+: NV had a less interesting setting bu they put decent shit in it which made it good.
26 Apr 17, 10:47 AMVicomte+: I really liked the world in FO4 I justwish they put something interesting in it.
26 Apr 17, 10:47 AMVicomte+: I prefer fantasy though.
26 Apr 17, 10:47 AMVicomte+: I'm not a huge fan but it can be done well.
26 Apr 17, 10:44 AMwork357: so idk, maybe its just the apocalypse i dont care for
26 Apr 17, 10:44 AMwork357: but if you go full zany you end up with borderlands which i hated, and if you go full serious you get stalker which im also not keen on
26 Apr 17, 10:43 AMwork357: i think that each aspect detracts from the other
26 Apr 17, 10:41 AMVicomte+: The beth fo's are at their best whe they're silly.
26 Apr 17, 10:41 AMVicomte+: I wish they'd just go wacky with them.
26 Apr 17, 10:37 AMwork357: plus i get that its the point but i really dont like the tone of the fallout games, they flit between really zany light hearted goofiness and crushing depression consatntly
26 Apr 17, 10:37 AMwork357: i like TES pretty much exclusively cause i like fantasy universes and character creation, both of which i feel like it does really well, fallout i always feel was pretty lacking in that
26 Apr 17, 10:34 AMwork357: yeah i dont doubt its a better game but the aesthetic just does nothing for me
26 Apr 17, 10:31 AMSlightlyJames: Weird, New Vegas is the least 'post-apocalyptic' of them all. They actually let the world start to rebuild itself (which Beth ignored and made everything completely fucked again despite being chronologically later afaik)
26 Apr 17, 10:28 AMwork357: but the whole post apocalyptic thing just doesnt do it for me at all
26 Apr 17, 10:28 AMwork357: idk i just dont really care about fallout i guess i liked 3 cause it was the first game of the bethesda style that i played
26 Apr 17, 10:27 AMSlightlyJames: Like the last game in the series was fantastic and pretty widely beloved but they fucked Obs with the metacritic thing and never brought them back despite actually knowing how to make good Fallout
26 Apr 17, 10:27 AMwork357: i know its basically heresy to say that on box
26 Apr 17, 10:27 AMwork357: i never actually like new vegas that much?
26 Apr 17, 10:26 AMSlightlyJames: Witcher 3 comparisons didn't hurt FO4 for me, New Vegas ones did.
26 Apr 17, 10:25 AMwork357: i know you can ignore it but its such a large and such a shitty part of the game
26 Apr 17, 10:25 AMwork357: i think the main reason i disliked FO4 was the settlement stuff
26 Apr 17, 10:25 AMVicomte+: I think a lot of the rason FO4 looked so bad was it came out soon after w3.
26 Apr 17, 10:24 AMVicomte+: It's like they're not veen trying compared to w3.
26 Apr 17, 10:24 AMwork357: dude even something like bioware
26 Apr 17, 10:24 AMVicomte+: The game does soe many things so well you feel like there's no excuse for shit like ebthesda.
26 Apr 17, 10:23 AMVicomte+: Yeah it's legitimately good and not even just video game good.
26 Apr 17, 10:22 AMwork357: like i dont even know if ill be able to appreciate other games that are considered well written after this
26 Apr 17, 10:21 AMwork357: the dialogue systems and writing are probably the best in a game full stop
26 Apr 17, 10:21 AMwork357: it sounds like i hate the game but i really dont
26 Apr 17, 10:14 AMwork357: couple times the sword hasnt drawn itself automatically for some reason and i've found myself punching stuff
26 Apr 17, 10:14 AMwork357: yeah i've noticed that lol
26 Apr 17, 10:03 AMVicomte+: Unfortunately you can't punch monsters.
26 Apr 17, 10:02 AMVicomte+: Challenge run.