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19 Nov 17, 06:55 PM
PR: Read as Naidu sir
19 Nov 17, 07:03 PM
aryaprem 1: DNP sir and all Bro's, you can call me on 9989352722 for Ayurveda tips on health issues, today a 78 yrs LIC employee s Daddy from Delhi conveyed his regards( after his wife's death,he was bed ridden) by using Haarsingar leaves he is able to walk, i'm so happy, every one can use this leaves as general tonic for good health. god bless.
19 Nov 17, 08:28 PM
aryaprem 1: Good Night to all Vtrn Bro’s, Sisters and families of AF'S fraternity.
19 Nov 17, 08:35 PM
DNPatnaik: Thank you Aryaprem Sir for giving us ur contact number and for very social services. It is matter of extreme happyness that u could make the miracle by your simple advice. It is great feeling and achievement that the 78 yr old is fit to walk. I wish you long life for the larger interest of the society.
19 Nov 17, 09:20 PM
Chief Editor: we have to discuss the power of NAC.It is a different body constituted for a special purpose by the the Govt & the terns of reference is only given by the Govt.where as JCM is a permanent body constituted by the Govt giving representation to all stake holders.Whatever news we here regarding MF seems to be the Recommendation of MF hike by JCM,But DOPPW says that this can not be referred to NAC by them,Since they are not empowered to do so.In my opinion this is the scenario.
19 Nov 17, 09:38 PM
sgt shri ram swami: dr jamax sir and hfo sukumaran sir what is who are the reservist pensioners .are they less than 15 yrs servicewala or more that 15yrs servicewala
19 Nov 17, 09:46 PM
sgt shri ram swami: dr sir pse let me know what is a reservist pensioner
19 Nov 17, 10:30 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: @sgt sri ram swami Sir : http://www.cgda.nic.in/Suvigya/pbor/dispreser.php
19 Nov 17, 11:33 PM
jamax: Good Night to all Veterans & Shubh Raatri
20 Nov 17, 12:10 AM
Antony Thomas: Good night sirs.
20 Nov 17, 12:27 AM
Omee: Good night
20 Nov 17, 03:37 AM
A.R.Naidu: Dear MBC,Lenity,Ranganath,JoseMathews,Kameswargaru,Kalidasgaru,GopalSir,PSRgaru,Jamax,MOX,P.MurugeshanSir,Edward ,All.HFOs & Rest good morning
20 Nov 17, 05:05 AM
TD Kalidas: Good Morning to all Veterans. Have a nice day.
20 Nov 17, 06:57 AM
P Murugesan: Good morning to all my dear veteran brothers.Start with a nice Monday & have fresh faith and hopes.God bless.
20 Nov 17, 07:00 AM
HFO C Sukumaran: Good morning to all veterans!
20 Nov 17, 07:40 AM
Ashok09: Good morning to all the veterans I salute to HFO Sukumaran sir for his in-depth knowledge of service matters may I have your phone no sir for seeking expert advice when needed
20 Nov 17, 08:02 AM
Narla: Good Morning Dear Brothers. "Simple Principle of Life - Never think I've nothing. Never think I have everything. But always think I have something and I can achieve anything." Have a Nice Day.
20 Nov 17, 08:14 AM
PSDEOL: Good Morning Veteran Brothers
20 Nov 17, 08:45 AM
kalyanam: good morning to all my dear veterans
20 Nov 17, 09:16 AM
jamax: Good Morning to all Veterans & have a Beautiful Day
20 Nov 17, 09:22 AM
AAPADMANABH: Good morning all Vetearn friends.
20 Nov 17, 09:30 AM
Mohammed: http://www.tkbsen.in/2017/11/7th-pay-commission-employees-may-not-get-good-news-on-pay-hike-soon/
20 Nov 17, 09:32 AM
PSR: Good morning to all
20 Nov 17, 09:34 AM
PSR: MW and MF are not anomalies so not comes under NAC
20 Nov 17, 09:35 AM
PSR: It should be settled between JCM and GoI(CoM)
20 Nov 17, 10:10 AM
R Ravichandran: Good Morning to all Veterans
20 Nov 17, 10:17 AM
HFO C Sukumaran: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/how-a-whatsapp-message-can-get-you-arrested/articleshow/61718967.cms
20 Nov 17, 10:23 AM
HFO C Sukumaran: http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/comment/soldiers-are-for-fighting/500250.html
20 Nov 17, 10:29 AM
Chief Editor: SEN Times has taken a U turn now on the subject of Pay Hike
20 Nov 17, 11:01 AM
Ashok09: @HFO Sukumaran sir please check your mail
20 Nov 17, 11:14 AM
R.Rajendra Prasad: G/M to all.can anybody furnish me the Email ID to which data sheet is to be sent.Tks.ur immediate response requested pse.
20 Nov 17, 11:26 AM
Hav MVNM RAO: Good morning to all veteran brothers. Any good news for today?
20 Nov 17, 11:43 AM
HFO C Sukumaran: @R Rajendra Prasad : scroll below this CB. click on the respective button.
20 Nov 17, 11:47 AM
R.Rajendra Prasad: Sukumaran sir I need emailid to whom datasheet is to be sent pse.tks
20 Nov 17, 11:49 AM
HFO C Sukumaran: E'mail id is dav.airmen@gov.in
20 Nov 17, 11:50 AM
HFO C Sukumaran: the email id is given below the second button
20 Nov 17, 11:51 AM
HFO C Sukumaran: It is better to send hard copies by speed post
20 Nov 17, 11:54 AM
R.Rajendra Prasad: Sukumaran sir tks alot.i coudnot see it due to over sight.tks & regards
20 Nov 17, 12:20 PM
aryaprem 1: GAN to all Sir's, if Minimum Wage and fitment were not coming under the purview of NAC, why NAC, JCM, FM and other concerned experts were keeping quite so long ?
20 Nov 17, 12:50 PM
RP SHARMA: With due respect to all Brothers,it is stated that NAC only looks into the anamolies reported by the Deparmental Anomaly Committees such as: if feeder and promotional posts fall in the same grade pay or level . MF and Minimum Pay do not fall into the perview of NAC, it is to be decided by Govt. I am silent watcher and was watching the news reported by vets. brothers as appeared in Sentimes etc.on daily basis but was not able to understand how NAC can decide the issue of MF and MP.
20 Nov 17, 12:55 PM
Kumar Swamy: Went to syndicate. Branch hanamkonda for LC. They refused saying submit only at parent branch.
20 Nov 17, 01:09 PM
aryaprem 1: RP Sharma sir, it is Govt who constituted NAC and said NAC will look into 7 th CPC, CGE Anomalies. now why this excuse?
20 Nov 17, 01:13 PM
D KRISHNA: Respected veterans , I am ex sgt and I have a doubt in the data sheet which is to be submitted. what service element as on 31 dec 2015 to be filled can any one confirm please
20 Nov 17, 01:17 PM
RP SHARMA: Arya Prem Sir, Raising of MF and MP is not an anomaly.
20 Nov 17, 01:26 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: For Air veterans : Living pensioners the columns 1 to 6, 9 to 18 and 28,29, a) to e) are important. Any veteran having PPOs as per col 19 & 20 can fill in the ppo nos. In case of doubt plse do not fill wrong data in col.21 to 24. leave the columns blank. For Family pensioners : Col Nos. 1 to 18, 25, 28 , 29 and a) to e) are compulsory. Colmns. 19 & 20 fill in details, if available. In case of doubt plse do not fill wrong data in col.21 to 24. +++
20 Nov 17, 01:26 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: Self attestation of PAN and Aadhar is to be done by pensioner for self. For wife, she has to self attest them i.e. PAN and AAdhar.
20 Nov 17, 01:32 PM
D KRISHNA: Sukumaran sir thanku very much for the guidence.
20 Nov 17, 01:47 PM
srinivasans: Kumar swamy sir good afternoon.with regard to your post time 1255h the process is you need to ahow ppo copy/passbook Aadhar card to the oi/c syndicate bank and ask him to attest the life certificate.pls keep xerox copies of the same and courier the original life certificate along with self attested pan card Aadhar card copies of self spouse to the home branch .also send usind cover letter.with one photo forbest results.
20 Nov 17, 01:48 PM
srinivasans: You can track online if courier delivered to home branch
20 Nov 17, 01:51 PM
srinivasans: Kumar swamy sir send xerox copies of Aadhar card pan card ppo copy and original life certificate with cover letter.paste photo on cover letter and mention acct no.ppo no other personal information update.
20 Nov 17, 01:56 PM
AAPADMANABH: Column no 23 in the data shhet i mentioned as not applicable.But It is OROP Basic pension .Hope DAV may not find it difficltto find out my BP ON 31 st dec 2015.
20 Nov 17, 02:03 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: http://afa-india.org/pension-life-certificate-now-any-branch-your-pension-account-bank
20 Nov 17, 02:21 PM
AAPADMANABH: I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY SERVICE ELEMENT IS MIXED UP WITH DISABILITY PENSION COLUMN .
20 Nov 17, 02:23 PM
AAPADMANABH: In face in my view column service element should have been added below
20 Nov 17, 02:23 PM
AAPADMANABH: column no 8
20 Nov 17, 02:57 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: Disability pension consists of two elements viz., Service Element and Disability Element. Disability Element will be granted if the individual is invalided out of service on account of a disability which is attributable or aggravated by military service However, in cases of release/retirement cases, disability element is granted only when the disability is assessed at 20% or more.
20 Nov 17, 03:12 PM
snc: good afternoon to all veterans.
20 Nov 17, 03:17 PM
Nar Singh Ex- Navy: Ta
20 Nov 17, 03:29 PM
Nar Singh Ex- Navy: Good A/N to all AFV's
20 Nov 17, 03:58 PM
sgt shri ram swami: dear CE sir pre16 exsm data published on chatbox is only upto 13nov 2017 only my packet was received at dav on 13 nov 2017 at 1645 hrs followed by i recd the sms also from india post so my service no is supposed to be included in that next lot that is from 20 nov 2017 and the next lot is so far not on site so iam eagerly waiting to check my number so when the next lot will be published sir it was from monday to manday pse guide for a shy of relief sir
20 Nov 17, 04:01 PM
jwoPSK: Sirs NAC or no NAC the question is that are PM, DM, FM willing to pay, if yes this NAC stands nowhere.
20 Nov 17, 04:03 PM
sgt shri ram swami: dr nar singh sir when the next lot of data sheets will be given on net i want to check my service no on that my packet was received delhi on 13 nov evening so my service number should be in next lot of 20 nov pse advise sir
20 Nov 17, 04:09 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: @ SR Swami Sir. There are three link buttons given below this CB. From the middle button you can find out directly from DAV site. So far DAV has not updated after 13 Nov 17 for pre 16 airmen and Ncs (E).
20 Nov 17, 04:20 PM
sgt shri ram swami: lot of thanks hfo sukumaran sir they may publish it tomorrow or day after i will have a check thanq sir
20 Nov 17, 04:25 PM
ex-sgt goutam chattopadhy: good evening sirs can any body advice me ,which figure to be put in col.no. 23
20 Nov 17, 05:28 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: Please read 01:26 pm post
20 Nov 17, 05:36 PM
AAPADMANABH: @ex-sgt goutam chattopadhy sir to the best of my knowledge service element is reqd to calclate the disabilty war injury etc pensions.Those who are eligiblle for disability and war injury have to indicate the basic pension for easy guidance.But many of the vtearns are showing the OROP BASIC PENSION.yOU CAN ALSO DO THE SAME
20 Nov 17, 05:36 PM
AAPADMANABH: @ex-sgt goutam chattopadhy
20 Nov 17, 05:36 PM
AAPADMANABH: @ex-sgt goutam chattopadhy
20 Nov 17, 06:03 PM
AAPADMANABH: Service element is rqd for calculating Disability invalidated war injury pensions.A percentage of service element is paid as Disability pension.There is nothing wrong if you show the OROP BP Ifigure.
20 Nov 17, 07:52 PM
KAMESWAR: Good evening Naidu garu.
20 Nov 17, 07:52 PM
KAMESWAR: Kindly clarify w.r
20 Nov 17, 07:53 PM
KAMESWAR: Kindly clarify w.r
20 Nov 17, 07:58 PM
KAMESWAR: Sorry friends let me repeat. Kindly clarify w.r.t. data sheet- there is no column for DPDO. Those who r drawing pension through DPDO how and which column to fillup.
20 Nov 17, 08:06 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: @Kameswar garu, through which bank your pension is being paid?
20 Nov 17, 08:26 PM
TD Kalidas: Dear James hear Sir, you are correct. In the column I have written the bank name. I have put an * and wrote at the bottom of the said page with the said mark that I am drawing the pension through DPDO.
20 Nov 17, 08:29 PM
TD Kalidas: Sorry read as Kameshwar Sir instead of James Hear Sir.
20 Nov 17, 08:45 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: Good evening TD Kalidas Sir. Could you please clarify my doubt since I have not seen a PPO of a pensioner drawing pension through DPDO. Does the pensioner's half of PPO contain addresses of DPDO as well as the Bank ?
20 Nov 17, 09:04 PM
TD Kalidas: HFO Sukumaran Sir, the PPO is issued by PCDA Allahabad I.A.F.A. 373 which is a Book with instructions after about 50 blank pages and is directly sent to individual DPDO. First page consists of Pensioners Name. Second Page consists of Service Number Rank and Name of the pensioner and also the name of spouse, age and residential address. Next page consists of DPDO address, PPO, DCRG, Commutation amount, Family Pension details, IR paid which are forwarded after duly filled.
20 Nov 17, 09:09 PM
TD Kalidas: The DPDO on receipt will give a separate Pension number as per their records. Every year we go personally to DPDO for identification which DPDO duly signs in the pension book. We do subscribe our signature in their register. In case of Family pensioner, the beneficiary also goes annually for identification.
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