[older messages]
18 Jan 18, 01:33 PM
Dipak: Good afternoon all on the CB.
18 Jan 18, 01:46 PM
TD Kalidas: PN Chourasia Sir, 2nd CPC to 3rd CPC 6 years, 3rd to 4th CPC 13 years, 4th to 5th 10 years, 5th to 6th 10 years and 6th to 7th 10 years. Total from 1973 to till date 44 years gone and we lost idea what we lost in previous CPCs and now, daily we see three to 4 types of news. GOI is thinking of revision, sometimes it floats news that it is not possible to revise. Sometimes it says no CPCs in future. Also it says now revision upto L-5 only and so on so forth. In between the Court directives. We
18 Jan 18, 01:50 PM
TD Kalidas: as Veterans have no other way to go. I feel those who are still in this world and receive the benefit will be lucky as most of the Veterans are Senior Citizens. There is no guarantee of life you know
18 Jan 18, 01:53 PM
TD Kalidas: I remember one giving a reply to a question "What is life". The reply was great. When we come in this world we come with breath. When we leave this world we will have a name but no breath
18 Jan 18, 01:55 PM
TD Kalidas: The gap between the breath and Name is called LIFE. The very life is with several ups and downs and at times very volatile.
18 Jan 18, 02:46 PM
X Sgt. Jacob John: Sir, online ECHS card filing is bit difficult, since we need the finger print device, kindly advise please.
18 Jan 18, 03:42 PM
DATTA. ...: A R NAIDU SIR PENSION ( ARMY) KUCH BADHANEWALA HAI KYA ...............
18 Jan 18, 03:42 PM
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18 Jan 18, 03:46 PM
PR: Sirswe pray God to give good sense to the authorities and give the veterans their legitimate requirements withou
18 Jan 18, 03:46 PM
PR: t wasting further time
18 Jan 18, 03:49 PM
PR: Because so many years passe and further delay cannot be justified.
18 Jan 18, 03:49 PM
PR: Read as passed
18 Jan 18, 04:11 PM
A.R.Naidu: Datta sir Jaroor Badlega Intejar Karo
18 Jan 18, 04:20 PM
PN Chaurasia MCPOI: Good evening Mr. Naiydu sir. Any idea when are they going to declare revised MSP as in recent dialogues, no one is discussing other than fractured OROP which is under so many surgeons like OMJ, Delhi HC, rep. to PM by various groups, JM Dharana and off course the SC.
18 Jan 18, 04:22 PM
PN Chaurasia MCPOI: Read of course instead of off course and OMJC in place of OMJC.
18 Jan 18, 04:29 PM
X Sgt. Jacob John: Sir,
18 Jan 18, 04:29 PM
X Sgt. Jacob John: Sir, Kindly give more details regarding the ECHS online please
18 Jan 18, 05:08 PM
A.R.Naidu: PNC sir it is under process MSP is not small issue almost all Serving & Rtd; to be covered ,it needs good amount of Budget Allotment, if any thing allotted in Forth Coming defence budget only it is genuine Confirmation Next month Budget session will be on, Yesterday Pre Budget Consultation is Over it seems, Dont believe any News Till Govt; declares
18 Jan 18, 05:10 PM
A.R.Naidu: Jacob John sir good evening, is it necessary to Up date ? if Updated what are the Benifts
18 Jan 18, 05:11 PM
A.R.Naidu: DNP sir good evening, pl go theough my posting at 05.10 PM
18 Jan 18, 05:12 PM
A.R.Naidu: Pl; Read Through
18 Jan 18, 05:28 PM
TD Kalidas: AR Naidu Sir, with regard to ECHS Card, different holders are giving different versions. My Card is issued to me in 2012 and when I asked at ECHS, they say there is no need and they also said they did not receive any orders for renewal. If it is to be linked with Aadhar, they may take our finger print like we had given in DPDO, Mobile phone, bank accounts etc.
18 Jan 18, 05:33 PM
P Murugesan: @T D Kalidas sir, if you have got the ECHS card during 2012 then it is 32 KB card.Applying for new 64 KB cards for 32 KB Cards holders is optional till the year 2020. However, they can also apply to get the benefits of new Smart Card.
18 Jan 18, 05:34 PM
A.R.Naidu: Kalidas sir Life period is 10 years if not frayed if a person takes Medines on Monthly Basis the memory should sustain for 20 years
18 Jan 18, 05:38 PM
P Murugesan: A R Naidu sir, good evening. The ECHS card there they have not stupilated any life period, but in the New 64 Kb card your medical history will be recorded additionally.
18 Jan 18, 05:41 PM
A.R.Naidu: P.Murugeshan sir good evening, Pl; go through ECHS site there in Questions & Answer Column it is mentioned
18 Jan 18, 05:45 PM
P Murugesan: The new Smart Card is of the capacity of 64 Kb which can store vital information of the beneficiaries including their Medical History, Referral History, Medicine Issue Logs etc.
18 Jan 18, 05:45 PM
A.R.Naidu: i have a notion Under National Health policy the New Card may be Used Like CGHS mode of Treatment, Now Railways started , i have to pay Additional Rs 30,000/- to have treatment in any Nominated Hospitals all over india with out Reporting to Railway Poly Clinics
18 Jan 18, 05:46 PM
A.R.Naidu: Sir small Break
18 Jan 18, 06:17 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=807840942734568&set=a.807841099401219.1073741827.100005260095090&type=3
18 Jan 18, 06:33 PM
DP SINGH: Good eve to all chatters on cb and silent watchers ,A R NAIDU sir is correct wait for budget ,allocations is must for MSP,REVISED OROP AND fitment factor donot loose hope till then try to help the veterans who demised 8between -1.1.6 till 1.7.2014 for getting benefits of cir no 568 and for veer naris as per cir no 567 and good night
18 Jan 18, 06:42 PM
X Sgt. Jacob John: Nadiu Sir, present card will cease to function from 2020 and only new cards are applicable and kindly study the matter please.
18 Jan 18, 06:45 PM
X Sgt. Jacob John: Sir, through the ECHS card policy maker and view and make decision on the matter related to the ECHS
18 Jan 18, 07:06 PM
A.R.Naidu: J.John,sir good evening Pl.wait up to 2020, why to hurry some new policy may come by that time
18 Jan 18, 07:14 PM
PR: Naidusir regarding Aadhar case is going on in the SC. If the SC says it is not mandatory then hat would happen
18 Jan 18, 07:15 PM
PR: Read as what
18 Jan 18, 07:22 PM
A.R.Naidu: let us wait & see sir main reason for Aadhar Compulsory, is to eliminate Multiple PAN cards
18 Jan 18, 07:29 PM
SASI 1: G/E all veteran brothers, we know silent watchers, but we have to see the silent workers too, they work for all ESMs
18 Jan 18, 07:48 PM
A.R.Naidu: SAS1 1 good evening Silent workers normally Self less so dont need any blessings fm; us the Good deeds always Protects them
18 Jan 18, 07:54 PM
SRL KUREEL: Good Evening veterans
18 Jan 18, 08:11 PM
kalyanam: NAIDU SIR Adhar is also useful to reduce the govt expenses
18 Jan 18, 08:12 PM
kalyanam: old age pension and other govt concession are curtailed
18 Jan 18, 08:13 PM
kalyanam: multiple entry curtailed
18 Jan 18, 08:23 PM
sankar: sgt.Jacob John sir, your posting 02:46 PM .it is not finger print device but the specimen signature of us and dependents. signature on plain paper is to be scanned and uploaded. finger print is given just for model. click on the finger print you will find signature of idividual
18 Jan 18, 08:24 PM
sankar: that need to be uploaded
18 Jan 18, 08:27 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: http://echs.gov.in/img/Smartcard/Instructions%20Ver%202.0%20Final.pdf#page=10
18 Jan 18, 08:28 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: http://www.echs.gov.in/img/Policy/FAQs%20ONLINE%20APPLICATION.pdf
18 Jan 18, 08:46 PM
HFOBLKalra: G/E friends.- There is lot of misgiving about 3rd CPC. Vol.III pertained to Def Forces. I had purchased a copy of the same while on T/D from Srinagar to Delhi. Pension of JCOs/ORs was reduced from 70% to 50%. But our DA was increased from 80% to 100%. You see, we JCOs/ORs were getting only 2/3 of DA compared to civilians. During the tenure of Mshl Arjun Singh as CAS, it was raised to 80% & then raised to 100% by 3 rd CPC. The reasoning was that PBOR too purchase their domestic requirement from *
18 Jan 18, 08:49 PM
HFOBLKalra: *same shop from Civ/COs do the shoping. It was the best thing which 3rd CPC did otherwise we would be getting 2/3 of 125% of DA for upgradation to 7 PC even today,
18 Jan 18, 08:55 PM
kalyanam: but DA will not be counted for pension and other purpose?
18 Jan 18, 08:58 PM
TD Kalidas: Murugesan Sir, your post at 5-45 PM seems to be correct. I rarely go to Poly Clinic. After seeing in this CB, I enquired and they said renewal not necessary. The Medical Officer here also very cordial and our treatment data is fed into Computer by Duty Med Officer himself. Thus whether we have 32 kB or 64kb may not be problem for Card holders.
18 Jan 18, 09:00 PM
kalyanam: my card is lost and apply for before 3years but i did not get my card yet
18 Jan 18, 09:01 PM
KPCReddy: Good evening to all veterans. @ HFO Kalra sir. The pension of 70% during 1st and 2 nd CPC was on LPD or maximum of the scale. Pl throw some light.
18 Jan 18, 09:13 PM
HFOBLKalra: KPC Reddygaru- I do not know about 1 & 2nd CPC, but from 3rd CPC, Our (PBOR only) pension was based on Max.of the scale of the rank & then reduced proportionaly if our service was less than 33 yrs. For Example- Sgt X Gp starting 420 & ending 700. Then our pension will be 700/2 for all Sgt retiring with one yrs service as Sgt or 8 yrs of service as Sgt. Then from this 700/2 it will be proportionally reduced because service is less then 33 years. So it will be 700/2* 15/33, but Sgt was getting 6**
18 Jan 18, 09:14 PM
HFOBLKalra: **Sgt was given 6 yrs benefit, so his service will counted 15+6 & therefore his pension will be counted as 700/2 * 21/33
18 Jan 18, 09:14 PM
P Kumar: Good Evening to all. Regarding the new ECHS card.Is Fresh disability certificate is to be obtained for disability 40% and above only for dependants or primary member also? Doubt is because the proforma given in appendix seems to be for dependants. Learned members please clarify.
18 Jan 18, 09:18 PM
KPCReddy: Sir thanks a lot for the enlightenment. Any one may throw light on the query raised by me. Small correction we were given a weightage of 5 years to the actual service rendered as i remember, I served 15 years. Benefits were given considering that 5 years as 20 years served.
18 Jan 18, 09:28 PM
KPCReddy: My purpose of asking is to know the sanction of pension was on LPD or maximum of scale and weightage given. Without these inputs commenting reduction of pension from 70% to 50% is beyond comprehension.
18 Jan 18, 09:30 PM
HFOBLKalra: Till 6 CPC our pension system did not recognise the length of service in a particular rank which means a JWO of one yr service & and another JWO of 10 yrs service as JWO will get same pension provided their total service in the IAF is equal.
18 Jan 18, 09:35 PM
HFOBLKalra: As far your query, Reddygaru, our pension till 6 CPC (1.1.2006) did not recognise LPD. It was based on (i) Max. of scale of rank (ii) Weightage as per rank (iii) Proportionally reduction in pension if total service(& not rank service) is less then 33 yrs including weightage
18 Jan 18, 09:39 PM
KPCReddy: Sir once again thanks for the enlightenment. ^ CPC's recommendation of 50% on LPD for a person serving 20 years and above is a boon. many got real benefit including me . As second service i can not serve 28 or 33 years to earn full pension. It also gave many to opt for leaving service after getting full pension.
18 Jan 18, 09:39 PM
KPCReddy: Pl read as 6CPC
18 Jan 18, 09:41 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: @P Kumar :(ab) Disabled Child. Medical certificate from a Service Hospital duly signed by the concerned specialist regarding the eligibility of the disability. Disability will be decided as per ‘Persons with Disability (PWD) Act’ 1995 or as amended later. The disabilities as per Act are as follows: (aaa) Blindness; (aab) Low vision; (aac) Leprosy-cured; (aad) Hearing impairment; (aae) Loco motor disability; (aaf) Mental retardation; (aag) Mental illness; ++++++
18 Jan 18, 09:41 PM
HFO C Sukumaran: +++In addition, following requirements are also to be fulfilled for availing ECHS facilities: (aaa) The disability percentage is required to be minimum 40%. (aab) Not able to earn livelihood. (aac) Approval of eligibility of White Card will be done by Central Organisation ECHS.
18 Jan 18, 09:45 PM
KPCReddy: HFO Sukumaran sir may throw some light on pension granted during 1st and 2nd CPC to PBORs /JCOs for discussion on reduction of pension from 70% to 50%.
18 Jan 18, 09:54 PM
Sami: Only upto 21years of service pension based on LPD will be beneficial after that pro-rata on Max Scale will be beneficial .
18 Jan 18, 11:25 PM
PKB: Sir, I am not an ECHS member still now , I have retired on31/07/1987 as a Sgt. Please let me know whether I am eligible for monthly Rs.100/- from my pension paying Branch.
18 Jan 18, 11:29 PM
DNPatnaik: Good night to all
18 Jan 18, 11:43 PM
aryaprem1: H
18 Jan 18, 11:44 PM
aryaprem1: Good Night CE sir and all Veteran Bro's
19 Jan 18, 03:34 AM
TD Kalidas: Dear Veterans, GOOD MORNING. Have a Nice Day.
19 Jan 18, 03:39 AM
PSR: Good morning to all
19 Jan 18, 03:40 AM
PSR: Naidu garu gopala sir good morning
19 Jan 18, 04:39 AM
SASI 1: Good morning all veteran brothers
19 Jan 18, 04:51 AM
kalyanam: good morning to all my dear veterans
19 Jan 18, 06:13 AM
P Murugesan: Good morning to all my dear veteran brothers.Have a nice day.God bless.
19 Jan 18, 06:45 AM
Nar Singh Ex- Navy: Good Morning to all AFV's. If correct OROP is given as per DGL of SHQ published during UPA govt after the announcement of OROP will be more beneficial. As per that DGL Pension of a Hony Lt was 17130/- and for Hony Capt it was 17905/-
19 Jan 18, 07:03 AM
X Sgt. Jacob John: nline Application Form For 32KB Card Holder [Select Pensioner Photo] ESM Photo ESM Name ESM Service Number Jacob John 646048-N ESM Gender ESM Date of Commission/Enrollment ESM Date of Retirement/Discharge ESM Type of Pension ESM Service ESM Category ESM Rank ESM Unit ESM Record Office ESM PPO No [Primary Benificiary Signature] Primary Benificiaries Signature Disability NA
19 Jan 18, 07:04 AM
X Sgt. Jacob John: For Sankar sir, siganature is in the image format and same is not coming
19 Jan 18, 07:15 AM
Ashok09: Good morning to all the veterans
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